Curse

Kalki · May 13, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by Dyeane

Actually, decay is 10% a day, regardless of how many members you have.

Thanks for pointing that out, and good to know it can't be cheated in the way I described. I'm still learning about this faction system. I still think whichever alliance controls it should hoard the loot though.

Vinsanity · May 13, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

and the controlling alliance has 7 million faction now btw

They just had a guild with 1 million faction join up with them.

On behalf of The Short Bus [TSB], we fully support this idea and will continue to farm our asses off to take Cavalon so that the community will have option to the deep. Why should only 5% of the community have access to these areas? When I pay for a game I expect to get the full potential out of the game.

If anyone wants to help the cause for the fight for Cavalon, you are welcome to join our guild also, just message me in game. Thx and have a good day

Gwen Haler [TSB]
[TC] Alliance

Swinging Fists · May 13, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by Jagflame

Sounds a bit too much like Communism to gain my favor...

But on a more serious note, why should the currently leading guild be not allowed access? It is no crime to play the game how it was designed to be played. They simply grinded for the position and earned it. Not that they should keep the position forever, I'm jut saying it's not a bad thing that they own Cavalon.

The reason behind the suggestion to deny access to the alliance currently in control is simply to provide their current members with incentive to leave, as that would then make them eligible for entry into the mission. After a while, the individual members would leave to get access, and the threat of them retaking control from the community would dissipate.

It was not meant as anything personal against the current individuals in that alliance. It was simply a game mechanic to make this solution more stable.

I am very glad to see the various members of The Crusaders responding to this thread and moreover, responding favorably.

I definitely think we should give this a try. They are not asking for gold. They are not asking for entrance fees. Taken at their word, and I have no reason whatsoever not to, they seem to be interested in what is best for the Guild Wars community.

BTW, I know this isn't a recruiting thread, and probably not allowed, but if there is any room in your alliance for me...

Tuoba Hturt Eht · May 13, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Ya need 5 million luxon factions to take over Cavalon.

I suggest farming "The Luxon Supplies Line" quest over and over again.

Make squads of faction farmers.

1 warrior + 7 non-warriors.
Take squad to Breaker Hollow.
Exit east, everyone get quests.
In 2 minutes, Warrior sprints, charges to quarter master Hector while everyone dies.

Warrior activates res shrine at quarter master hector.
Warrior delivers supplies to hector.
Warrior goes kill himself.

Whole team is resurrected.
The other 7 team mates cash in their 400 faction.

Do this for 10 runs under 30 minutes. (including zone loading times)
8 ppl will have 4,000 total 32,000 luxon faction.

Do another 3 runs and 8 ppl will have 5.2k faction. 8 x 5k = 40k total to cash in for the alliance standing faction.

Have 10 teams of these faction farmers doing it, that'll be 400k luxon faction for the alliance for every 30 minutes.

800k luxon faction every hour.

Ever wondered how Black Blades is holding Cavalon for 5mil factions?
Now you know.

Tseng Shinra · May 13, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Originally Posted by Vinsanity

They just had a guild with 1 million faction join up with them.

On behalf of The Short Bus [TSB], we fully support this idea and will continue to farm our asses off to take Cavalon so that the community will have option to the deep. Why should only 5% of the community have access to these areas? When I pay for a game I expect to get the full potential out of the game.

If anyone wants to help the cause for the fight for Cavalon, you are welcome to join our guild also, just message me in game. Thx and have a good day

Gwen Haler [TSB]
[TC] Alliance

5%? try like .01%

As an officer of The Crusaders, I'd like to say that we want the community to thrive. Just because you cant commit as much time or pass the rigorous joining fees/process of black blades, doesnt mean you shouldnt be able to access everything.

pointblank187 · May 13, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32

Personally I'm farming 16-20 hours a day to achieve our goal of Cavalon. What will be the first thing I do? I will go straight to Cavalon and invite whoever wants to go into the deep. I feel that all my personal hard work will have paid off once Cavalon is "open to the public".

I feel that it's a game and we all should be able to enjoy all of it and if I have to work 16-20 hours a day until we take this monopoly out of power then so be it. I can understand UW and FoW being only open when we have favor but at least everyone has a chance to experience it. The way it stands now the elite mission for Cavalon would never be open for anyone outside of what? 1000 max? At 7 mil most guilds wouldn't be able to keep up and catch up so they may never have a chance to experience this mission thus not being able to experience the full game.

TC is trying to change that and allow everyone the chance to experience this, not just 1000 people. If we have to take Cavalon without outside help before everyone realizes that we are serious about keeping Cavalon open to all as long as we maintain it then that's fine too. We have the resolve to out gain the current leading alliance and will.

Origin · May 13, 2006, 08:35 AM // 08:35

Hello, I am from alliance of The Crusaders too. We would really use gwguru's community help to take Cavalon and make it accessible for all as fast as possible, for sure. No doubt it's hard to take it from BkBd and because their arrogance and elitism we want to make Cavalon available for all. Although TC's alliance is mainly American based, we have enough people in europe too [includes me], so everyone either from America and Europe territory interrested to take a look in The Deep will get a chance as we take Cavalon!

Please, we'd appreciate your cooperation and help for make Luxon's side better. Kurzick's best alliances havent such arrogant town owners as Luxon's have. And btw. if BkBd will own Cavalon long time, we may not see many people in Jade sea in future... Please save Luxons

Swinging Fists · May 13, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht

Ya need 5 million luxon factions to take over Cavalon.

I suggest farming "The Luxon Supplies Line" quest over and over again.

Make squads of faction farmers.

1 warrior + 7 non-warriors.
Take squad to Breaker Hollow.
Exit east, everyone get quests.
In 2 minutes, Warrior sprints, charges to quarter master Hector while everyone dies.

Warrior activates res shrine at quarter master hector.
Warrior delivers supplies to hector.
Warrior goes kill himself.

Whole team is resurrected.
The other 7 team mates cash in their 400 faction.

Do this for 10 runs under 30 minutes. (including zone loading times)
8 ppl will have 4,000 total 32,000 luxon faction.

Do another 3 runs and 8 ppl will have 5.2k faction. 8 x 5k = 40k total to cash in for the alliance standing faction.

Have 10 teams of these faction farmers doing it, that'll be 400k luxon faction for the alliance for every 30 minutes.

800k luxon faction every hour.

Ever wondered how Black Blades is holding Cavalon for 5mil factions?
Now you know.

Actually, I don't think you know now ? I know you haven't tried this. The supply line quest is not one that is done by one person and everybody else just hangs out. Everybody has to carry their own supplies. No supplies, no faction. That's why everybody does it individually. Some people can bring henches for cannon faughter or a group for the comraderie, but you have to actually carry the supplies from point A to point B to get the quest done.

Also, so as to not dissuade anyone from helping because they don't have a warrior. Monks, rangers, assassins, pretty much every profession can run this quest. Again, not speaking for the Crusaders, but I wouldn't be surprised if they even made suggestions for how your profession could do it, if you ask.

TheEPIC · May 13, 2006, 08:45 AM // 08:45

I'm fully behind my alliance's (The Crusaders) decision to open The Deep. It is the only reason I would put in as much faction a day as I do. Personally, I am sickened by the thought that, at max, only 1000 luxon players would be able to get into the elite mission over an alliance's greed and desire to monopolize. I guess thats why I feel okay about making as much of a contribution to The Crusaders as I do; it's sorta' become like a community project for me and other members of this alliance.

Honestly, Anet needs to act. The amount of talk and thought that people are contributing to this topic is a sure sign of that. Whether it be entrance fees like FoW an UW or some other prerequisite, most any change to the system would be nice. Come on Anet, if we, the players, are trying to take action like this then you should too.

Origin · May 13, 2006, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Of course I don't blame BdBk for their arrogance, elitism and so. It's normal in today world. I blame A-Net for this "Factions" system. But if Anet will not do something with this system, a community must! Come on, we let everyone go to Kurzick side because there they can try the elite mission? Are we gonna just stand and watch BkBd how they are 1337 [oh that's so cute!] and how they publicly say they are the only one who can go to The Deep and they won't allow: community to try it; sell rare items from this elite mission to public and more ---- from their "codex" and everyone that feels it's not right and try break their 'rules' will be excluded from their alliance because he's sharing his/her experience with the content of the game he, and everyone else paid for? I think this must be stopped...

Vinsanity · May 13, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

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Originally Posted by Tseng Shinra

5%? try like .01%

Yeah i just threw out a number there for an example, i didnt know the exact number so thats what popped in my head, thx for the insight though.

lemonking · May 13, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

hey guys, im from the black blades aliance and i just wanted to give you a clear goal to work against:

Mimi Miyagi · May 13, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by Origin

Of course I don't blame BdBk for their arrogance, elitism and so. It's normal in today world. I blame A-Net for this "Factions" system. But if Anet will not do something with this system, a community must! Come on, we let everyone go to Kurzick side because there they can try the elite mission? Are we gonna just stand and watch BkBd how they are 1337 [oh that's so cute!] and how they publicly say they are the only one who can go to The Deep and they won't allow: community to try it; sell rare items from this elite mission to public and more ---- from their "codex" and everyone that feels it's not right and try break their 'rules' will be excluded from their alliance because he's sharing his/her experience with the content of the game he, and everyone else paid for? I think this must be stopped...

Our group (of kurzicks) were laughing our asses off listening to the various Black Blades saying "OMG how did you get in here!" every 30 seconds just before we went into the deep for about 4 hours. Their elitism and arrogance is astounding and quite unfounded.

We teased them mercilessly too.

It's so funny, on the kurzicks side people outside of the controlling alliance can basically come and go into the Warrens, yet on the luxon side it's monopolized by a bunch of kiddies charging people to come in, and acting like jerks.

And the Deep isn't that hard of a mission.

Shantel Span · May 13, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

Mimi, unfortunately, they're not even charging people to get in - it's an outright ban. Sad, huh? If you're ever gathering Luxon faction to see what our side has to offer, come donate after you Befriend the Luxons.

pointblank187 · May 13, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

Aye it's an outright ban on anyone from the outside and if someone is caught in that alliance letting an outsider in they are kicked with no exception. Again I emphisize we need to get this monopoly OUT any way we can. TC is committed to do it regardless but donations of factions just means that everyone gets access to it quicker. Also while not required throwing 5-10k our way every now and then while we have it would take some of the load off of the people that are going on 4 and 500k personal faction. It will also allows us to maintain control enabling access to all.

pointblank187 · May 13, 2006, 10:31 AM // 10:31

ohh Lemon that's nice you guys haven't even broke a mil yet? Man you elitists must have it nice. LOL

lemonking · May 13, 2006, 11:30 AM // 11:30

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Originally Posted by pointblank187

ohh Lemon that's nice you guys haven't even broke a mil yet? Man you elitists must have it nice. LOL

Hockster · May 13, 2006, 11:34 AM // 11:34

Here's a tip not many seem to know about. If you get into the elite mission staging area, you can map to your guild hall and then map back to the staging area, even if your alliance doesn't own it anymore. Any alliance members that have already been there once before can party with you in your hall and map travel back.

Of course this only works for direct travel. If you leave and go somewhere else you can't map back to the staging area.

One thing to be wary of, I've seen XoO members do this, is they will get into your group and run like hell out of the zone. Once they map you out, you're screwed.

zhai · May 13, 2006, 11:47 AM // 11:47

OLD Alliance(BTW I'm member of it) today took control over House zu Heltzer - I wouldn't agree for "free for all" Elite Missions. They are Elite, and it's very hard to get nad stay at the top. People just want to get best things for free - it's irritating.

pointblank187 · May 13, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

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Originally Posted by zhai

OLD Alliance(BTW I'm member of it) today took control over House zu Heltzer - I wouldn't agree for "free for all" Elite Missions. They are Elite, and it's very hard to get nad stay at the top. People just want to get best things for free - it's irritating.

Point is though it's a game everyone paid for it our alliance as a whole feel everyone should experience it.